Montage Confusion

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » 04 Jul 2004 14:16

Hey guys,
Whenever I see a video clip of a montage, I can't figure out how it gets the Paradox add. Isn't a montage a Spinning Ducking PS Whirl? But to me, it only looks like a spinning ducking symposium whirl; it's the same with whirlwind also. If anyone can explain to me how it gets the pdx add, that would be great! Thanks!

ShredStylez · Post by **ShredStylez** » 04 Jul 2004 14:46

It's not actually paradox. Because u spin first the dex gets deamed paradox.

sampotter · Post by **sampotter** » 04 Jul 2004 22:16

Paradox is reversed after a spin.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 05 Jul 2004 03:15

Pdx is always a far dex. When there is no spin this means it's dexed with the setting foot, when there is a spin it means the dex is with the side furthest from the bag. For example spinning pdx whirl set from a clipper is dexed with the opposite foot to the setting foot, while toe set spinnging pdx whirl is dexed with the same foot (unless it's inspinning)

Hope that makes sense!

ShredStylez · Post by **ShredStylez** » 05 Jul 2004 04:59

alot of times with paradox u just have to take it as it is.

max · Post by **max** » 05 Jul 2004 05:54

while toe set spinnging pdx whirl is dexed with the same foot (unless it's inspinning)

Hope that makes sense!

haha that's great!! Jeremy discreetly inserts a reference to both paradox AND toe set spinning, and then wraps it up with "Hope that makes sense!"

fantastic

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » 07 Jul 2004 11:39

Thanks for all the info guys! That clears up some of my confusion!

*Jethro* · Post by ***Jethro*** » 07 Jul 2004 17:11

i used to think the same thing,lol.i thnk there was a topic on it.

Shredster · Post by **Shredster** » 08 Jul 2004 12:00

Slightly off topic, but still about montages:

Someone was thinking of diving/zulu montage....

Now seeing as zulu is diving op side and diving is diving ss, montage would have to be diving right? If montage were zulu, wouldn't montage be reduced to "Spinning Zulu Symposium Whirl?"

I'm just confused since spinning messes ducking/diving up a bit and yeah, hope you can answer me on this one...

wolfpac444 · Post by **wolfpac444** » 08 Jul 2004 12:51

Just think of it this way: ducking and zulu are interchangable and
diving and weaving are interchangable.

Thus, you can have spinning ducking ps whirl or spinning zulu ps whirl and gyro diving symp whirl or gyro weaving symp whirl.

Shredster · Post by **Shredster** » 08 Jul 2004 20:33

Thanks, however, after i posted, i began thinking of it that way and i was like "doh, that was a dumb post!"

B_Man · Post by **B_Man** » 17 Jul 2004 12:19

Shredster wrote:Someone was thinking of diving/zulu montage....

That's alright Chris. I forgive you for telling people about the trick I wanted to try and hit even after I asked you to keep it on the down low

Stoke · Post by **Stoke** » 21 Jul 2004 23:14

I think the whole concept of spinning and pdx makes perfect sense. You just need to know all the ins and outs of it.

Ok check it- If you set from clip [I'm only gonna talk about clip-set spin moves, since the question wasn't about toe moves], do a spin, and dex with the same leg you set with, it's a gyro whirl, and you won't have to spin nearly as far as you do with spinning pdx whirls. You really only need to spin like 90 degrees, or a quarter spin with gyro whirls. The spin. pdx whirls don't switch sides because they require a complete spin. So you get the pdx add cuz you have to move your body more. That's the gist.

If you do a FULL spin and dex with the same leg you set with, you'll really have to do a spin and a half [roughly], and you get 2 spin adds and no pdx. It's called double gyro.

I won't go into inspinning, cuz that's a whole new can of worms. And then there's X-spin, which I don't know much about.. But I don't think it's official.